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Summary

When comparing bounce data from different email platforms like Drift Email and HubSpot, it's common to find discrepancies. These differences primarily stem from how each platform processes and interprets bounce notifications. HubSpot, as the primary Email Service Provider (ESP), typically handles in-band bounces, which are immediate rejections during the SMTP conversation. Drift, often acting as a tool for conversational data and email follow-ups, may be capturing out-of-band bounces or interpreting email replies that contain bounce-like language. This distinction can lead to different reporting metrics.

What email marketers say

Email marketers often encounter inconsistencies when comparing bounce data across various tools and platforms. This can be particularly confusing when the primary sending platform reports successful delivery, while a secondary tool indicates a bounce. Marketers highlight that while ESPs like HubSpot are generally the authoritative source for bounce data, other tools might provide supplemental insights, albeit sometimes misleading.

Marketer view

Email marketer from Email Geeks suggests that Drift might be catching bounces that occur out-of-band, after HubSpot has already processed the initial delivery. These are not typically seen as immediate rejections by the ESP.

15 Dec 2023 - Email Geeks

Marketer view

Email marketer from Email Geeks notes that HubSpot's bounce numbers are significantly higher than Drift's, suggesting that Drift might only be capturing corner-case bounces related to specific corporate spam filters or unusual scenarios, rather than standard delivery failures.

15 Dec 2023 - Email Geeks

What the experts say

Email deliverability experts highlight that the primary ESP (Email Service Provider) will always have the most accurate and real-time bounce data. This is because bounces are typically handled "in-band" during the live SMTP conversation. Any discrepancies reported by third-party tools are often due to those tools receiving "out-of-band" notifications or misinterpreting reply messages, rather than direct delivery failures.

Expert view

Deliverability expert from Email Geeks explains that most email rejections happen "in-band," meaning they are immediate and handled by the ESP directly. This prevents third-party tools from seeing them through the return path.

15 Dec 2023 - Email Geeks

Expert view

Deliverability expert from Email Geeks states that HubSpot would know with 100% accuracy if an address were bouncing when mailed through their system, and they would deal with it accordingly. Therefore, if Drift disagrees, its bounce data is likely incorrect.

15 Dec 2023 - Email Geeks

What the documentation says

Official email protocols and documentation define how bounces should be handled. Most bounce notifications, especially for permanent failures (hard bounces), are part of the SMTP conversation (in-band). This means the sending server receives immediate feedback from the receiving server. Temporary failures (soft bounces) can sometimes lead to out-of-band notifications sent to the return path specified in the email header. Different systems may process these differently, leading to data discrepancies.

Technical article

Documentation from RFC 5321 (SMTP) defines the handling of delivery failures. It specifies that a mail server indicates non-delivery through SMTP response codes during the transaction, which constitutes an in-band bounce.

17 Oct 2008 - RFC 5321

Technical article

Documentation for DSNs (Delivery Status Notifications) in RFC 3464 describes the format and content of bounce messages that are typically sent to the return path. These are out-of-band notifications that may be processed differently by various systems.

28 Jan 2003 - RFC 3464

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