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What causes "too old" bounce messages and how to fix high bounce rates from Verizon (Yahoo, AOL)?

Summary

The "too old" bounce message from internet service providers (ISPs) like Verizon (which includes Yahoo and AOL) indicates that your email delivery attempts have timed out after multiple retries. This typically points to an underlying deliverability issue, often related to your sender reputation or severe rate limiting by the receiving ISP. Instead of a direct rejection, the email sits in your email service provider's (ESP's) queue for an extended period, eventually expiring. Identifying the root cause requires looking for earlier, more specific error codes that would have occurred before the timeout, such as TS004 errors from Yahoo.

What email marketers say

Email marketers facing "too old" bounces from Verizon (Yahoo, AOL) often suspect dedicated IPs or unengaged lists as primary culprits. However, the consensus leans towards these bounces being a symptom of deeper reputation issues and rate limiting by the receiving ISP, rather than a direct indicator of recipient age. Marketers emphasize the importance of understanding the underlying rejection codes from their ESP and maintaining strong list engagement.

Marketer view

Marketer from Email Geeks shared that their team experienced severe "too old" bounces specifically from Verizon (Yahoo, AOL) and was considering solutions such as removing unengaged emails or migrating to a dedicated IP address. They were curious if others had similar experiences and effective remedies.

17 May 2021 - Email Geeks

Marketer view

Email marketer from WebmasterWorld Forum highlighted that dedicated IPs, in their direct experience with Yahoo and AOL domains, can sometimes result in worse deliverability outcomes compared to sending via a shared environment. This suggests that the perceived benefits of dedicated IPs do not always apply uniformly across all ISPs or sending scenarios.

10 Aug 2023 - WebmasterWorld Forum

What the experts say

Experts universally agree that the "too old" bounce message is a symptom, not a diagnosis, stemming from an email queuing timeout. The real problem lies in the receiving ISP (like Verizon, Yahoo, or AOL) rate-limiting or declining emails due to sender reputation. They emphasize the critical need to identify earlier, specific bounce codes from the ESP to pinpoint the actual cause, which is almost always related to how the ISP perceives your sending practices.

Expert view

Expert from Email Geeks clarified that "too old" is not Yahoo rejecting an address because the recipient valid since date is too old. Instead, it indicates that Yahoo is rate limiting you due to reputation, and the "too old" message is your MTA/ESP indicating the address expired out of the queue.

17 May 2021 - Email Geeks

Expert view

Deliverability expert from Word to the Wise suggests that "too old" bounces typically mean the ESP has been trying to deliver the email for several days (e.g., 3 or 4 days, depending on configuration). This persistence in queuing occurs because the receiving ISP, such as Microsoft, has consistently declined to accept the email, leading to its eventual timeout.

29 Mar 2024 - Word to the Wise

What the documentation says

While specific ISP documentation rarely details internal ESP bounce messages like "too old", official postmaster guidelines consistently emphasize sender reputation, compliance with RFC standards, and user engagement as critical factors for successful email delivery. These documents outline the various reasons an email might be deferred or rejected, which ultimately lead to ESP queue timeouts. The common theme is that poor sender practices result in rate limiting or blocking, causing messages to expire in transit.

Technical article

RFC 5321, the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol specification, outlines that sending servers should retry temporary failures (4xx SMTP codes) for a reasonable period. If delivery cannot be completed within a configured timeframe, the message should be returned to the sender with a clear indication of the failure, which implicitly covers the "too old" scenario as a deferred message timeout.

01 Oct 2008 - RFC 5321

Technical article

Yahoo's Postmaster Guidelines emphasize the importance of maintaining a positive sender reputation, noting that factors such as spam complaints, low user engagement, and sending to invalid addresses can lead to temporary blocks or rate limits. These blocks directly result in emails queueing up and potentially timing out as "too old" from the ESP's perspective.

15 Mar 2023 - Yahoo Postmaster

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